Comments for eco-scams.com http://www.eco-scams.com Jon Starbuck's blog exposing pseudo-green nonsense, promoting science and critical thinking. Thu, 02 Feb 2012 20:56:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 Comment on Hydro Go in the Metro is a scam! by Jon http://www.eco-scams.com/archives/752#comment-29643 Jon Thu, 02 Feb 2012 20:56:47 +0000 http://www.eco-scams.com/archives/752#comment-29643 Yes Kenneth, I think so. This my guess why all the goofy claims have disappeared off the de Verde website. Yes Kenneth, I think so. This my guess why all the goofy claims have disappeared off the de Verde website.

]]> Comment on Hydro Go in the Metro is a scam! by Kenneth R Moore http://www.eco-scams.com/archives/752#comment-29641 Kenneth R Moore Thu, 02 Feb 2012 20:45:36 +0000 http://www.eco-scams.com/archives/752#comment-29641 Jon, is De Verde technologies also being investigated by the ASA ? Jon, is De Verde technologies also being investigated by the ASA ?

]]> Comment on Hydrotechnix – HHO scams in the UK & Spain by James http://www.eco-scams.com/archives/695#comment-29542 James Wed, 01 Feb 2012 08:21:51 +0000 http://www.jonstarbuck.co.uk/archives/695#comment-29542 Jon, As i will be corresponding with Andre, Jon i hope that you may see that not all you don't believe in is a scam over time! Ian, I'm not sure what this Hyclone is but its far from HHO or Hydrogen, I'm sure. Where talking about a REAL fuel, scientifically proven and acknowledged as a fuel. As most people are using it as a fuel supplement, some do make claims of false m.p.g. improvements, which damages the credible validation of its true possibilities. So ease up on the slamming down of SCAM claims! Just so as everyone is aware of, I personally would not put forth as much effort as i have, nor would i continue to if i myself had not verified for myself that HHO is a useful and TRUE positive gain for extending the fuel that i have to pay for out of money that is hard earned. I'm in the poor bracket for income, and i have made NO income or profit from HHO. Yet in using HHO i have cut my fuel bill considerably even with gas prices increasing. I AM A SKEPTIC, IF I CAN'T SEE IT I DON'T BELIEVE IN IT. And i believe very little that i do see! So take that for what its worth!!!!!!!!!!! Jon,
As i will be corresponding with Andre, Jon i hope that you may see that not all you don’t believe in is a scam over time!
Ian,
I’m not sure what this Hyclone is but its far from HHO or Hydrogen, I’m sure. Where talking about a REAL fuel, scientifically proven and acknowledged as a fuel. As most people are using it as a fuel supplement, some do make claims of false m.p.g. improvements, which damages the credible validation of its true possibilities. So ease up on the slamming down of SCAM claims!

Just so as everyone is aware of, I personally would not put forth as much effort as i have, nor would i continue to if i myself had not verified for myself that HHO is a useful and TRUE positive gain for extending the fuel that i have to pay for out of money that is hard earned. I’m in the poor bracket for income, and i have made NO income or profit from HHO. Yet in using HHO i have cut my fuel bill considerably even with gas prices increasing. I AM A SKEPTIC, IF I CAN’T SEE IT I DON’T BELIEVE IN IT. And i believe very little that i do see!
So take that for what its worth!!!!!!!!!!!

]]> Comment on Hydrotechnix – HHO scams in the UK & Spain by Ian http://www.eco-scams.com/archives/695#comment-29513 Ian Tue, 31 Jan 2012 23:24:06 +0000 http://www.jonstarbuck.co.uk/archives/695#comment-29513 I started a thread a few years ago regarding Hyclone on one of the Land Rover forums. The theory of swirling the airflow BEFORE the turbo !! Ha ha. Loads of people, who had already fitted one to their vehicle swore blind it worked.One guy claiming to have the fasted Landy in the UK - nothing to do with remap, altered gearing etc he had done - it waqs , in his words, all down to the Hyclone.Strange how when asked to test his vehicle on a rolling road both with and without the Hyclone, there was always an excuse.Until someone found out this particular guy was representing Hyclone!! No surprise there.Just a waste of time reading 26 pages . My point is this: How come not one single person can come forward and show credible proof of how any of these "fuel saving" gadgets actually work. "It works on my car" is not proof.Show me real, credible, scientific proof. Until then...........IT'S A SCAM ALL THE WAY !! Don't believe me or refuse to believe me ? Fine, just send me £50 in cash and I'll send you a box of tricks that will double you'r MPG. What's that ?? How does it work?? Well I'm sure I'll think of some way to make you understand how an empty box costing £50 works .Cos if you are gullible enough to think you can double mPG for just £50 then you'll also fall for any old BS explaining how it works (or doesn't). I started a thread a few years ago regarding Hyclone on one of the Land Rover forums. The theory of swirling the airflow BEFORE the turbo !! Ha ha.
Loads of people, who had already fitted one to their vehicle swore blind it worked.One guy claiming to have the fasted Landy in the UK – nothing to do with remap, altered gearing etc he had done – it waqs , in his words, all down to the Hyclone.Strange how when asked to test his vehicle on a rolling road both with and without the Hyclone, there was always an excuse.Until someone found out this particular guy was representing Hyclone!! No surprise there.Just a waste of time reading 26 pages .
My point is this:
How come not one single person can come forward and show credible proof of how any of these “fuel saving” gadgets actually work. “It works on my car” is not proof.Show me real, credible, scientific proof.
Until then………..IT’S A SCAM ALL THE WAY !!
Don’t believe me or refuse to believe me ? Fine, just send me £50 in cash and I’ll send you a box of tricks that will double you’r MPG. What’s that ?? How does it work?? Well I’m sure I’ll think of some way to make you understand how an empty box costing £50 works .Cos if you are gullible enough to think you can double mPG for just £50 then you’ll also fall for any old BS explaining how it works (or doesn’t).

]]> Comment on Hydro Go in the Metro is a scam! by Jon http://www.eco-scams.com/archives/752#comment-29501 Jon Tue, 31 Jan 2012 18:22:46 +0000 http://www.eco-scams.com/archives/752#comment-29501 Hi Richard, Is there any way you can get a copy of the flyer to me? I'll email you privately. I'd like to send it to the ASA who are currently investigating them. Thanks, Jon Hi Richard,
Is there any way you can get a copy of the flyer to me? I’ll email you privately. I’d like to send it to the ASA who are currently investigating them.
Thanks, Jon

]]> Comment on Hydro Go in the Metro is a scam! by Richard http://www.eco-scams.com/archives/752#comment-29485 Richard Tue, 31 Jan 2012 11:48:00 +0000 http://www.eco-scams.com/archives/752#comment-29485 I recieved a flyer about this last year and initially I was very interested, but after looking into the technology and the complete lack of any testing data or proof on the website I have not proceeded, I have only just found this site and I am totally in agreement with Jon, unless Hydrogo can produce some proper data which can be verified on this system's claimed performance I wouldn't touch it with a bargepole ! I recieved a flyer about this last year and initially I was very interested, but after looking into the technology and the complete lack of any testing data or proof on the website I have not proceeded, I have only just found this site and I am totally in agreement with Jon, unless Hydrogo can produce some proper data which can be verified on this system’s claimed performance I wouldn’t touch it with a bargepole !

]]> Comment on Hydrotechnix – HHO scams in the UK & Spain by Andre http://www.eco-scams.com/archives/695#comment-29371 Andre Mon, 30 Jan 2012 03:52:04 +0000 http://www.jonstarbuck.co.uk/archives/695#comment-29371 Hey, everybody This blog has been quite interesting. I have laughed so hard I got a headache. Anyway, i'm going to add my two cents to the conversation. First off make no mistake about it I am a believer in Christ. I'm a minester and my faith in Jesus Christ is strong. That said, this fact alone flies in the face of science. I am also a truck driver, been one for 11yrs. Now I own my on truck and have always been looking for a way to improve my fuel economy. I dont think I live to far from James in georgia for I live on tennessee just across the stateline. I would love to take a look at what you have done and see what I can do to my 2004 c13 to improve it. Im not for or against hho, altough I hear alot about it jon, I understand your position on the matter. But I want to make my on determination on whether it work or not, not by science by practical use of it feel free to email me james or anyone who would like to converse with me andrewhiteside@gmail.com God bless Hey, everybody
This blog has been quite interesting. I have laughed so hard I got a headache. Anyway, i’m going to add my two cents to the conversation. First off make no mistake about it I am a believer in Christ. I’m a minester and my faith in Jesus Christ is strong. That said, this fact alone flies in the face of science. I am also a truck driver, been one for 11yrs. Now I own my on truck and have always been looking for a way to improve my fuel economy. I dont think I live to far from James in georgia for I live on tennessee just across the stateline. I would love to take a look at what you have done and see what I can do to my 2004 c13 to improve it. Im not for or against hho, altough I hear alot about it jon, I understand your position on the matter. But I want to make my on determination on whether it work or not, not by science by practical use of it feel free to email me james or anyone who would like to converse with me andrewhiteside@gmail.com God bless

]]> Comment on Platinum fuel saving nonsense by Jim B http://www.eco-scams.com/archives/644#comment-29246 Jim B Fri, 27 Jan 2012 20:21:05 +0000 http://www.jonstarbuck.co.uk/?p=644#comment-29246 The platinum in a catalitic converter decreases emissions by heating up and burning off the pollutants. I can't imagine how injecting platinum into the intake could increase mpg or lessen pollutants. Back in the 70's hot rodders (myself included) were installing water vapor injection systems to the intake. It seemed to help with preignition in higher compression engines, and there were some substantiated fuel economy gains. As to the platinum injection, I always come back to the idea that if an idea were that good, the car manufacturers would use it..... The platinum in a catalitic converter decreases emissions by heating up and burning off the pollutants. I can’t imagine how injecting platinum into the intake could increase mpg or lessen pollutants. Back in the 70′s hot rodders (myself included) were installing water vapor injection systems to the intake. It seemed to help with preignition in higher compression engines, and there were some substantiated fuel economy gains. As to the platinum injection, I always come back to the idea that if an idea were that good, the car manufacturers would use it…..

]]> Comment on Hydrotechnix – HHO scams in the UK & Spain by James http://www.eco-scams.com/archives/695#comment-28835 James Sat, 21 Jan 2012 08:30:27 +0000 http://www.jonstarbuck.co.uk/archives/695#comment-28835 I spoke to Richard Bird myself. I contacted him through his web site at ----------------------. He gave me some contact info for people in the U.S. He didn't seem to bad, to me. Sounds to me like your system may not be turned on. Have you checked for a switch or even a fuse? If your not the tech type have someone check it for power or loose connections as well... I spoke to Richard Bird myself. I contacted him through his web site at ———————-. He gave me some contact info for people in the U.S. He didn’t seem to bad, to me. Sounds to me like your system may not be turned on. Have you checked for a switch or even a fuse? If your not the tech type have someone check it for power or loose connections as well…

]]> Comment on Hydrotechnix – HHO scams in the UK & Spain by Sarah http://www.eco-scams.com/archives/695#comment-28729 Sarah Thu, 19 Jan 2012 16:45:44 +0000 http://www.jonstarbuck.co.uk/archives/695#comment-28729 Hi I actually bought a VW Caddy van from Richard Bird, registered to his address above in Reading!! I bought it from him at his house in Spain 2 years ago. The van is fine, I have all the documents now leaglly in my name, and it has run well for 2 years! The thing is, the van had the Hydrotechnix hydrogen fuel system fitted, which he said he was using himself, but no longer needed the van, and promised it would save fuel. He said to top up the water every few weeks and this would be converted into Hydrogen! After 2 years the same amount of water is in the container that he put in, and as far as I can see the hydrogen system has never worked. I didn't worry too much about this, and meant to get around to calling him to take a look, but as the van ran ok, I never got around to this, and 2 years passed quickly. I was considering giving him a call now to ask if he still does techincal work, and to tell him that the system never worked, but both his numbers are now inactive. That's when I stumbled across this post! I am not sure if the above facts are true, or if his systems work, and I would be interested to get hold of him to see if he can help, or if anyone has had any more contact with him regarding this system. Anyway...I am happy with the van, and I didnt pay too much for it (even with it having this amazing fuel saving system fitted) so I dont feel that I was conned..... Sarah Hi
I actually bought a VW Caddy van from Richard Bird, registered to his address above in Reading!! I bought it from him at his house in Spain 2 years ago. The van is fine, I have all the documents now leaglly in my name, and it has run well for 2 years! The thing is, the van had the Hydrotechnix hydrogen fuel system fitted, which he said he was using himself, but no longer needed the van, and promised it would save fuel. He said to top up the water every few weeks and this would be converted into Hydrogen! After 2 years the same amount of water is in the container that he put in, and as far as I can see the hydrogen system has never worked. I didn’t worry too much about this, and meant to get around to calling him to take a look, but as the van ran ok, I never got around to this, and 2 years passed quickly. I was considering giving him a call now to ask if he still does techincal work, and to tell him that the system never worked, but both his numbers are now inactive. That’s when I stumbled across this post! I am not sure if the above facts are true, or if his systems work, and I would be interested to get hold of him to see if he can help, or if anyone has had any more contact with him regarding this system. Anyway…I am happy with the van, and I didnt pay too much for it (even with it having this amazing fuel saving system fitted) so I dont feel that I was conned…..
Sarah

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