Comments for eco-scams.com http://www.eco-scams.com Jon Starbuck's blog exposing pseudo-green nonsense, promoting science and critical thinking. Fri, 14 Jun 2013 08:26:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 Comment on HHO Plus of Portugal is a scam by Jon http://www.eco-scams.com/archives/771#comment-133184 Jon Fri, 14 Jun 2013 08:26:02 +0000 http://www.eco-scams.com/?p=771#comment-133184 LOL! Did you just send me a video with Dodds / Oildrun / Save Fuel LTD in it to show me how wrong I am am about HHO? That is way too funny! Seeing as you like videos so much... you should watch this video, the one where I get the BBC to test Oildrum's fuelsave properly, by real scientists. Can you guess what happens! http://www.eco-scams.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/UniversityChallengedSmall.avi LOL! Did you just send me a video with Dodds / Oildrun / Save Fuel LTD in it to show me how wrong I am am about HHO? That is way too funny! Seeing as you like videos so much… you should watch this video, the one where I get the BBC to test Oildrum’s fuelsave properly, by real scientists. Can you guess what happens!
http://www.eco-scams.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/UniversityChallengedSmall.avi

]]> Comment on HHO Plus of Portugal is a scam by Habibur Rahman http://www.eco-scams.com/archives/771#comment-133164 Habibur Rahman Fri, 14 Jun 2013 03:53:13 +0000 http://www.eco-scams.com/?p=771#comment-133164 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ha2VRiWQe3Q just go to youtube and look up hho http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ha2VRiWQe3Q

just go to youtube and look up hho

]]> Comment on WaterMotive Ltd, Water4GasUK, Tranztec UK – more Hydrocharger websites by Jon http://www.eco-scams.com/archives/675#comment-132441 Jon Mon, 10 Jun 2013 16:48:21 +0000 http://www.jonstarbuck.co.uk/?p=675#comment-132441 Barry, This product cannot work, it would break the laws of physics if it did, you are either mistaken or lying. I don't need to test it to show that it does not work (indeed that would not be possible). They need to have it tested properly to show that it does work, why have they never done this? Is it because they know it is a scam? If it did work it would be fitted to every new car, but it is not; instead we have hundreds of companies that have conveniently gone bust and thousands of people who have been scammed. If Neil and Sam are not in on the scam then how do you explain the string of companies which they have set up and then dissolved, only to do it again and again selling the same thing? Jon. Barry,
This product cannot work, it would break the laws of physics if it did, you are either mistaken or lying. I don’t need to test it to show that it does not work (indeed that would not be possible). They need to have it tested properly to show that it does work, why have they never done this? Is it because they know it is a scam? If it did work it would be fitted to every new car, but it is not; instead we have hundreds of companies that have conveniently gone bust and thousands of people who have been scammed. If Neil and Sam are not in on the scam then how do you explain the string of companies which they have set up and then dissolved, only to do it again and again selling the same thing?
Jon.

]]> Comment on WaterMotive Ltd, Water4GasUK, Tranztec UK – more Hydrocharger websites by Mr Thomas http://www.eco-scams.com/archives/675#comment-132420 Mr Thomas Mon, 10 Jun 2013 10:48:00 +0000 http://www.jonstarbuck.co.uk/?p=675#comment-132420 some time a go i looked in to this water 4 gas and my self i thought can it be true well after a long time i rang up tranztec and spoke to neil and i went up there to have it done when he showed me and putting it all together on the car it did make a hell of an inprove ment to the car so what i am trying to say is dont slag some thing down till you try it for ya self its ppl like you who like to pull ppl down on some thing that works good on ya neil am with you some time a go i looked in to this water 4 gas and my self i thought can it be true well after a long time i rang up tranztec and spoke to neil and i went up there to have it done when he showed me and putting it all together on the car it did make a hell of an inprove ment to the car so what i am trying to say is dont slag some thing down till you try it for ya self its ppl like you who like to pull ppl down on some thing that works good on ya neil am with you

]]> Comment on HHO Plus of Portugal is a scam by Jon http://www.eco-scams.com/archives/771#comment-131523 Jon Wed, 05 Jun 2013 08:03:10 +0000 http://www.eco-scams.com/?p=771#comment-131523 The statement that "the way it works is a car only uses around 30% of the fuel you put in the rest is wasted" is completely untrue / very misleading. If you are going to ask me to believe such things you need to cite a source. The statement that “the way it works is a car only uses around 30% of the fuel you put in the rest is wasted” is completely untrue / very misleading. If you are going to ask me to believe such things you need to cite a source.

]]> Comment on HHO Plus of Portugal is a scam by Habibur Rahman http://www.eco-scams.com/archives/771#comment-130670 Habibur Rahman Mon, 03 Jun 2013 01:58:37 +0000 http://www.eco-scams.com/?p=771#comment-130670 [spam link removed ] This is not a scam, i have tested the device, so have my friends the way it works is a car only uses around 30% of the fuel you put in the rest is wasted, since the engine relies on a spark plu to ignite the fuel, not all the fuel is burned, the hydrogen gas expands, when ignited it burns more of the gasoline, it increases performance as well, Why dont you just install one yourself [spam link removed ]

This is not a scam, i have tested the device, so have my friends the way it works is a car only uses around 30% of the fuel you put in the rest is wasted, since the engine relies on a spark plu to ignite the fuel, not all the fuel is burned, the hydrogen gas expands, when ignited it burns more of the gasoline, it increases performance as well, Why dont you just install one yourself

]]> Comment on John Hickman attempts to parody me by Kei http://www.eco-scams.com/archives/776#comment-129627 Kei Tue, 28 May 2013 14:10:22 +0000 http://www.eco-scams.com/?p=776#comment-129627 I am very interested in the HHO technology because it is far beyond my knowledge and perhaps it could help someone to get a Nobel prize. If people can use it to generate electricity, we will reduce a significant amount of the green house gas and the oil demand would drop and so as the oil price. I believe the inventor has moral responsibility to patent his invention and reveal the technology to rescue the world from energy crisis. I am very interested in the HHO technology because it is far beyond my knowledge and perhaps it could help someone to get a Nobel prize. If people can use it to generate electricity, we will reduce a significant amount of the green house gas and the oil demand would drop and so as the oil price. I believe the inventor has moral responsibility to patent his invention and reveal the technology to rescue the world from energy crisis.

]]> Comment on Advice for an eco-scams reader. by Kei http://www.eco-scams.com/archives/766#comment-129625 Kei Tue, 28 May 2013 13:55:14 +0000 http://www.eco-scams.com/?p=766#comment-129625 I like to know how many MeV would be required to ionize only one hydrogen ion from a water molecule. btw I like to know how to prove the product was H+ OH- but not H2 02-. Another btw, H+ is acidic and OH- is base, why did't they have vigorous chemical reaction but waiting for you to burn them. Please forgive my broken English. I like to know how many MeV would be required to ionize only one hydrogen ion from a water molecule. btw I like to know how to prove the product was H+ OH- but not H2 02-. Another btw, H+ is acidic and OH- is base, why did’t they have vigorous chemical reaction but waiting for you to burn them. Please forgive my broken English.

]]> Comment on Jubycell, de Verde Technologies… whatever you call it, John Hickman is still a con man! by The Auto Workshop http://www.eco-scams.com/archives/709#comment-127911 The Auto Workshop Fri, 17 May 2013 09:07:59 +0000 http://www.eco-scams.com/archives/709#comment-127911 The auto workshop is no longer associated with Jubycell, de verde technologies in anway and has not been for several years. We fitted the kits to our own cars as a trial and found them not to work, so stoppeed using them. The auto workshop is no longer associated with Jubycell, de verde technologies in anway and has not been for several years. We fitted the kits to our own cars as a trial and found them not to work, so stoppeed using them.

]]> Comment on Logical fallacies by Gerald Vermeulen; Rotterdam area, The Netherlands http://www.eco-scams.com/about-eco-scams/logical-fallacies#comment-126939 Gerald Vermeulen; Rotterdam area, The Netherlands Mon, 13 May 2013 12:44:26 +0000 http://www.eco-scams.com/?page_id=755#comment-126939 My big question is: IS THIS TRUE ?? ...... http://www.exomission.de/index.php/en/technologien-3/kraftstoff-wasser-emulsion-kwe If it is, I will maybe consider it; but only if this ship Rudolf Deymann has consistent results, especially on the NOx -reduction side of these claims. Fuel reduction is almost impossibly to prove scientific; and with proving I mean: Proven, Beyond any trace of reasonable doubt! I am recently reading a lot about the usual, standard HHO-gas scam: http://www.schuttevaer.nl/nieuws/techniek/nid19030-waterstof-verbetert-verbranding.html But recently this crossed my path: http://www.exomission.de/images/Presse2013/2013-08-xx%20Maritime%20Propulsion%20_%20New%20non-smoking%20therapy%20for%20diesel%20engines.pdf http://www.exomission.de/index.php/en/technologien-3/kraftstoff-wasser-emulsion-kwe If it works, great. But: Does it work??? The national government of Germany seems to like it, they sponsor the realization by way of a tax-cut; equal to 40% of the extra cost for this piece of installation. What also interests me is the possible warranty issues that can be mounted by the Diesel engine manufacture. Just a tought! Can Anybody point met to credible evidence to (dis-)proving the thesis about water-Diesel emulsion technology? 1st axis: Does it really reduce NOx emissions per utilized kW output of the engine? 2nd axis: Is soot and fine particle(P10, etc.) production really reduced? 3th axis: Does this system really lead to a "even" fuel use, or maybe a slight fuel reduction [0% up to 6% fuel savings]? Bair in mind that especially inland waterway watertransport vessel have almost 40 % of the time have their motor running with 70% of maximum revolutions and only 40% of needed power out-put (related to maximum possible by the same number of engine revolutions)! Fully loaded, full engine use (revolutions ánd needed power output) is only used in less then 5% of the time that diesel-engines power this type of motor tank vessels! Hope to hear of you soon!! Gerald. (I have no vested interests or ties whatsoever, to the mentioned companies!) My big question is: IS THIS TRUE ?? ……
http://www.exomission.de/index.php/en/technologien-3/kraftstoff-wasser-emulsion-kwe

If it is, I will maybe consider it; but only if this ship Rudolf Deymann has consistent results, especially on the NOx -reduction side of these claims. Fuel reduction is almost impossibly to prove scientific; and with proving I mean: Proven, Beyond any trace of reasonable doubt!

I am recently reading a lot about the usual, standard HHO-gas scam:
http://www.schuttevaer.nl/nieuws/techniek/nid19030-waterstof-verbetert-verbranding.html

But recently this crossed my path:
http://www.exomission.de/images/Presse2013/2013-08-xx%20Maritime%20Propulsion%20_%20New%20non-smoking%20therapy%20for%20diesel%20engines.pdf

http://www.exomission.de/index.php/en/technologien-3/kraftstoff-wasser-emulsion-kwe

If it works, great. But: Does it work???

The national government of Germany seems to like it, they sponsor the realization by way of a tax-cut; equal to 40% of the extra cost for this piece of installation.

What also interests me is the possible warranty issues that can be mounted by the Diesel engine manufacture. Just a tought!

Can Anybody point met to credible evidence to (dis-)proving the thesis about water-Diesel emulsion technology?
1st axis: Does it really reduce NOx emissions per utilized kW output of the engine?
2nd axis: Is soot and fine particle(P10, etc.) production really reduced?
3th axis: Does this system really lead to a “even” fuel use, or maybe a slight fuel reduction [0% up to 6% fuel savings]?

Bair in mind that especially inland waterway watertransport vessel have almost 40 % of the time have their motor running with 70% of maximum revolutions and only 40% of needed power out-put (related to maximum possible by the same number of engine revolutions)!
Fully loaded, full engine use (revolutions ánd needed power output) is only used in less then 5% of the time that diesel-engines power this type of motor tank vessels!

Hope to hear of you soon!!

Gerald.
(I have no vested interests or ties whatsoever, to the mentioned companies!)

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