Comments for eco-scams.com http://www.eco-scams.com Jon Starbuck's blog debunking and exposing all things pseudo-green. Wed, 08 Sep 2010 09:41:50 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 Comment on The Hydrocharger, HHO scammers in the UK by Jon http://www.eco-scams.com/archives/658#comment-8759 Jon Tue, 07 Sep 2010 05:16:17 +0000 http://www.jonstarbuck.co.uk/archives/658#comment-8759 I have not "made my mind up", I have simply weighed up the available evidence in favour of HHO (ie none, beyond anecdote) against the available evidence against HHO (an enormous amount) and concluded it is preposterous nonsense. I have not “made my mind up”, I have simply weighed up the available evidence in favour of HHO (ie none, beyond anecdote) against the available evidence against HHO (an enormous amount) and concluded it is preposterous nonsense.

]]> Comment on The Hydrocharger, HHO scammers in the UK by Anonymous http://www.eco-scams.com/archives/658#comment-8736 Anonymous Sat, 04 Sep 2010 09:26:48 +0000 http://www.jonstarbuck.co.uk/archives/658#comment-8736 I think Jon has made his mind up, and no seems to be able to convinve him otherwise that maybe, just maybe, HHO could work with ecu's configured correctly, etc,etc. It seems some have done this in the USA, where their ecu's are far less dictatorial than euro ecu's. Yes, we all know the Prendergasts are conmen and scammers, that doesn't mean from now on, all HHO units the world over are all rubbish. Someone will, if they haven't all ready, perfect these to work in at least some cars if not all. I thank Jon for this site to have a moan at the Prendergasts and compare notes with other similar guys, but, you just can't slam the door on all HHO now and forever more. That's not fair or realistic. I think Jon has made his mind up, and no seems to be able to convinve him otherwise that maybe, just maybe, HHO could work with ecu’s configured correctly, etc,etc. It seems some have done this in the USA, where their ecu’s are far less dictatorial than euro ecu’s. Yes, we all know the Prendergasts are conmen and scammers, that doesn’t mean from now on, all HHO units the world over are all rubbish. Someone will, if they haven’t all ready, perfect these to work in at least some cars if not all. I thank Jon for this site to have a moan at the Prendergasts and compare notes with other similar guys, but, you just can’t slam the door on all HHO now and forever more. That’s not fair or realistic.

]]> Comment on The Hydrocharger, HHO scammers in the UK by Jon http://www.eco-scams.com/archives/658#comment-8610 Jon Mon, 23 Aug 2010 08:00:27 +0000 http://www.jonstarbuck.co.uk/archives/658#comment-8610 There are no credible HHO makers out there, one system may be better than another, but they all don't save any fuel. Show me evidence to the contrary, please, I have never seen any whatsoever. There are no credible HHO makers out there, one system may be better than another, but they all don’t save any fuel. Show me evidence to the contrary, please, I have never seen any whatsoever.

]]> Comment on Magnetic fuel saving scams by Jon http://www.eco-scams.com/archives/122#comment-8609 Jon Mon, 23 Aug 2010 07:58:14 +0000 http://www.jonstarbuck.co.uk/archives/122#comment-8609 No they don't. Cite one credible study showing that they do. Just one. Go on... No they don’t. Cite one credible study showing that they do. Just one. Go on…

]]> Comment on Hydrotechnix - HHO scams in the UK & Spain by Jon http://www.eco-scams.com/archives/695#comment-8608 Jon Mon, 23 Aug 2010 07:57:26 +0000 http://www.jonstarbuck.co.uk/archives/695#comment-8608 I'm finding it very hard to follow what you are saying, you seem to have had a punctuation bypass. What is your point? I’m finding it very hard to follow what you are saying, you seem to have had a punctuation bypass. What is your point?

]]> Comment on Hydrotechnix - HHO scams in the UK & Spain by Jon http://www.eco-scams.com/archives/695#comment-8607 Jon Mon, 23 Aug 2010 07:55:12 +0000 http://www.jonstarbuck.co.uk/archives/695#comment-8607 What? Really? Is this an example of Godwin's Law? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law I don't work for any oil companies, in fact quite the opposite. Get a grip... What? Really? Is this an example of Godwin’s Law? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law I don’t work for any oil companies, in fact quite the opposite. Get a grip…

]]> Comment on Hydrotechnix - HHO scams in the UK & Spain by Jon http://www.eco-scams.com/archives/695#comment-8606 Jon Mon, 23 Aug 2010 07:52:39 +0000 http://www.jonstarbuck.co.uk/archives/695#comment-8606 No, my problem is not only with people making money from it, it is the ABSOLUTE and COMPLETE lack of evidence that it works. This is because it is a scam, it does not work. No, my problem is not only with people making money from it, it is the ABSOLUTE and COMPLETE lack of evidence that it works. This is because it is a scam, it does not work.

]]> Comment on Hydrotechnix - HHO scams in the UK & Spain by jim http://www.eco-scams.com/archives/695#comment-8577 jim Wed, 18 Aug 2010 18:50:20 +0000 http://www.jonstarbuck.co.uk/archives/695#comment-8577 I have been following this since seeing Richards ebay ad for a business oppotunity which led me here. Im not forking out for a training course I cant afford and have a crap credit rating so no business plan would rub with the bank. I do however have a passion for alternative power and fuel systems and have done my reaserch into HHO. The gas produced from electrolysis is commonly known as Browns gas,oxyhydrogen but still burns givin the same energy.The important factor is it burns violently so in a combustion chamber mixed with petrol/diesel its a lot of energy being released its going to be more efficient and give more power with less fuel consumption. Its physics its proven its been used in manufacturing for 100s of years so please Jon it sounds like you only have a problem with the idea of people making money from it. I cant see why Richard is charging what he charges and misleading with some quotes but dont say it doesnt work thats just rediculous, there are argumants if the efficiency gained can compensate for alternator load powering the cell but with lower emmisions overall its the way to go for now. I have been following this since seeing Richards ebay ad for a business oppotunity which led me here. Im not forking out for a training course I cant afford and have a crap credit rating so no business plan would rub with the bank. I do however have a passion for alternative power and fuel systems and have done my reaserch into HHO. The gas produced from electrolysis is commonly known as Browns gas,oxyhydrogen but still burns givin the same energy.The important factor is it burns violently so in a combustion chamber mixed with petrol/diesel its a lot of energy being released its going to be more efficient and give more power with less fuel consumption. Its physics its proven its been used in manufacturing for 100s of years so please Jon it sounds like you only have a problem with the idea of people making money from it. I cant see why Richard is charging what he charges and misleading with some quotes but dont say it doesnt work thats just rediculous, there are argumants if the efficiency gained can compensate for alternator load powering the cell but with lower emmisions overall its the way to go for now.

]]> Comment on Hydrotechnix - HHO scams in the UK & Spain by Brian http://www.eco-scams.com/archives/695#comment-8548 Brian Sun, 15 Aug 2010 22:49:43 +0000 http://www.jonstarbuck.co.uk/archives/695#comment-8548 Just to add Jon is not unemployed he works for very well known oil companies that are trying to suppress HHO! Sorry mate but it here and its getting better. Please tell your boss that they will be losing lots of revenue very soon! LOL Just to add Jon is not unemployed he works for very well known oil companies that are trying to suppress HHO! Sorry mate but it here and its getting better. Please tell your boss that they will be losing lots of revenue very soon! LOL

]]> Comment on Hydrotechnix - HHO scams in the UK & Spain by Brian http://www.eco-scams.com/archives/695#comment-8547 Brian Sun, 15 Aug 2010 22:40:08 +0000 http://www.jonstarbuck.co.uk/archives/695#comment-8547 HHO Does work more MPG 25-120% increases and lowers emissions i have plenty of MOT goverment emission test resualts to prove it. The next generation cell is on its way very soon but i will not be releasing it until it is tested to the max! Please dont use stainless steel cells as they produce hexavalent Chromium it is a real danger to you as a person and the enviroment if the hho cell does not run clear all of the time get rid of it but please dont pore the dirty water down the sink my new generation cells comply with the statury instrument of 2008 in regard to EEE please find the document on the enviroment agency website! I have many test vehicles with great improvments in MPG they range from 25% to 120% improvement some need a hydrogen control processers some dont, there is a problem with 2006 and newer diesel vehicles it looks like its the DPF screwing things up but plese donot be tempted to swith it off with out removing the DPF completly if you donot remove it you will damage your engine in the tune of around £6000! the filter needs to regenerate and if you turn it off it cannot regenerate and it will block which in turn creates all the damage!! normal regeneration happens between 300 and 500 mile intervels HHO Does work more MPG 25-120% increases and lowers emissions i have plenty of MOT goverment emission test resualts to prove it. The next generation cell is on its way very soon but i will not be releasing it until it is tested to the max!

Please dont use stainless steel cells as they produce hexavalent Chromium it is a real danger to you as a person and the enviroment if the hho cell does not run clear all of the time get rid of it but please dont pore the dirty water down the sink my new generation cells comply with the statury instrument of 2008 in regard to EEE please find the document on the enviroment agency website!

I have many test vehicles with great improvments in MPG they range from 25% to 120% improvement some need a hydrogen control processers some dont, there is a problem with 2006 and newer diesel vehicles it looks like its the DPF screwing things up but plese donot be tempted to swith it off with out removing the DPF completly if you donot remove it you will damage your engine in the tune of around £6000! the filter needs to regenerate and if you turn it off it cannot regenerate and it will block which in turn creates all the damage!! normal regeneration happens between 300 and 500 mile intervels

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