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	<title>Comments on: Automotive Ecology, still selling snake oil.</title>
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		<title>By: Automotive Ecology wins award with bogus technology &#187; Pepijn van Erp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Automotive Ecology wins award with bogus technology &#187; Pepijn van Erp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Apr 2013 01:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a while they stopped bugging me and the website administrator. Jon Starbuck of eco-scams also picked up the story at this [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Pepijn van Erp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pepijn van Erp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 14:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Automotive Ecology is based in Belgium, but they had several projects in the Netherlands, that&#039;s why I became interested in the first place. They seem to do business mainly with intermediates. In all cases I saw there was a local garage involved. I thought this was just for practical reasons, because of the limited resources of Automotive Ecology, but there might be legal reasons as well.
I know of one garage owner who feels betrayed by Automotive Ecology, but it will cost him to much legal trouble to get some of his money back (he himself payed back the customers who were dissatisfied with the system): http://www.garagehuijbregts.nl/autobedrijf-van-het-jaar-2010/automotive-ecology-savefuel/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Automotive Ecology is based in Belgium, but they had several projects in the Netherlands, that&#8217;s why I became interested in the first place. They seem to do business mainly with intermediates. In all cases I saw there was a local garage involved. I thought this was just for practical reasons, because of the limited resources of Automotive Ecology, but there might be legal reasons as well.<br />
I know of one garage owner who feels betrayed by Automotive Ecology, but it will cost him to much legal trouble to get some of his money back (he himself payed back the customers who were dissatisfied with the system): <a href="http://www.garagehuijbregts.nl/autobedrijf-van-het-jaar-2010/automotive-ecology-savefuel/" rel="nofollow">http://www.garagehuijbregts.nl/autobedrijf-van-het-jaar-2010/automotive-ecology-savefuel/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anoniem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anoniem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 13:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the Netherlands we have Reclame Code Commissie (advertising code commission) who can go to court AFTER some one has complained. Also &quot;Vereniging tegen Kwakzalverij&quot; (society against quackery) can take legal action AFTER some one complained.
In jurisprudence with totally other product (other than its a scam too) &quot;Biostabiel2000&quot; there has been a set precedent in the Netherlands. They had to change their claims in advertising &amp; commercials and went bankrupt soon after this.
I&#039;m not aware that Belgium has similar organisations who can take legal steps after some one complained. Sure there will be but this explains differences in legality of such claims. Although EU, every country has (still) its legal sovereignty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the Netherlands we have Reclame Code Commissie (advertising code commission) who can go to court AFTER some one has complained. Also &#8220;Vereniging tegen Kwakzalverij&#8221; (society against quackery) can take legal action AFTER some one complained.<br />
In jurisprudence with totally other product (other than its a scam too) &#8220;Biostabiel2000&#8243; there has been a set precedent in the Netherlands. They had to change their claims in advertising &amp; commercials and went bankrupt soon after this.<br />
I&#8217;m not aware that Belgium has similar organisations who can take legal steps after some one complained. Sure there will be but this explains differences in legality of such claims. Although EU, every country has (still) its legal sovereignty.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.eco-scams.com/archives/757#comment-30026</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 08:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think I have confused the Netherlands with Belgium, I certainly know the difference. I&#039;m intrigued to learn that it is legal in Belgium to say &quot;my product will do X&quot; when you have no evidence that it does anything of the sort, or even when you know it does not do X at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think I have confused the Netherlands with Belgium, I certainly know the difference. I&#8217;m intrigued to learn that it is legal in Belgium to say &#8220;my product will do X&#8221; when you have no evidence that it does anything of the sort, or even when you know it does not do X at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Anoniem</title>
		<link>http://www.eco-scams.com/archives/757#comment-30025</link>
		<dc:creator>Anoniem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 08:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fact is that these type of lies are allowed in Belgium (Automotive Ecology is BELGIUM and NOT Dutch) but these lies are prohibited in the Netherlands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fact is that these type of lies are allowed in Belgium (Automotive Ecology is BELGIUM and NOT Dutch) but these lies are prohibited in the Netherlands.</p>
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