The UN’s Energy Globe Award for 2010 in the catorgy for “Air” went to the Epoch Energy Technology Corp. for developing a “dual fuel system for buses and trucks” – this dual fuel system is a carbon copy of the HHO run-your-car-on-water-scam which has been kicking about for decades, it is scientific nonsense and cannot possibly work.
The first this to point out about this “technology” is that it is not “dual fuel” at all – there is one source of energy here, the petrol/diesel. The second fuel is not a fuel at all but a way of inefficiently extracting energy from the first fuel and storing some of that energy for use later while loosing some of the primary energy… this results in more energy being used up than would have been consumed if you left the engine alone… so it consumes more fuel not less.
Does this sound like a green product to you? Clearly it is nothing of the sort.
[See my blog posts on Oil Drum Limited for an example of what happens when non technical people hand out prizes for innovation in technology.]
On the Energy Globe web site it says that:
Epoch Energy Technology of Taiwan has developed a technology that enriches fuels with oxy-hydrogen gas. [So it it is "enriched fuel" now, not duel fuel?]
The goal of this development is to reduce emissions [fail] via environmentally friendly oxygen and hydrogen[fail] and thereby to protect the environment [fail] and the health of city residents fail].
The high efficiency [reduced efficiency] of these gases can [cannot] reduce [increase] fuel consumption and emissions by some 15% [it claims 23% in the literature they sent me].
On Epoch’s own publicity material it clearly states that there EPC-100 and EPC-50 “will reduce fuel consumption and carbon emissions”.
Bullshit. This is simply not true and the company cannot have any evidence that it is true. If it were true it would violate the first and second laws of thermodynamics, since energy has to be conserved this product cannot work.
According to Epoch “fuels savings may vary across different brands and models” which is another way of saying “if you find that it does not work then it is your car’s fault, not that our technology being bogus”.
I have asked them to be specific about which makes and models they have found the EP-C50 to work better with, and which work less well, but they refuse to be specific…
“Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence” said Carl Sagan. Epoch Energy’s claims are most certainly extraordinary, I grantee that they have no decent evidence whatsoever.
Epoch Energy Technology Corp beat the City of Ann Arbor LED Streetlight Program and Malmö Environment Department for the 2010 Energy Globe Award. Presumably they are both worthy winners, I wonder what they make of loosing the award to Epoch ’s pseudo scientific crap?
Epoch themselves appear to want the world to think they are a renewable energy company. All Epoch sell which is “renewable” looks to be a few solar PV gizmos, a micro wind turbine, some inefficient Chinese evacuated tube water heaters and the oxy-hydrogen rubbish (which, even if it worked, would not be an example of renewable energy)
They have a US distributor who also thinks the small matter of whether the product works or not is a non-issue. Peter J. Crunk of HHO Gas Technology thinks that the burden of proof is on me to show that the product does not work (which is of course a logical fallacy) rather than them to show that it does work.
I was conversing with Peter on his website but he has stopped approving my comments so you can’t read them. If Peter would like to comment on this post he is welcome to, I won’t censor him, but somehow I don’t think he will.
I have also been in communication with William Huang Tinglef of Epoch themselves.
William says “we do not advertise the product as fuel saving” which is completely untrue. To quote from their website, “fuel consumption and carbon emissions are reduced”. It is also on their promotional videos and on the promotional material they sent me. It is true that they can’t stick to a figure for how much fuel you could save, but fuel saving is obviously their number one selling point.
William also sent me a paper on “Effect of H2/O2 addition in increasing the thermal efficiency of a diesel engine” carried out by Bari & Esmaeil in 2008. You can download it by clicking the icon on the right.
The key criticism of Bari & Esmaeil’s experiment is that “the H2/O2 mixture was generated using 24 V external power supply”. This means that it is not a closed system and the laws of thermodynamics do not apply, an unspecified amount of extra energy is being introduced into the system and not accounted for. There are several reasons to dismiss this experiment and its conclusions as garbage, but this is more than enough reason on its own.
Also note that in the several years that have elapsed since publication of Bari & Esmaeil’s experiment and yet no one has ever followed up on their findings, no car makers have every brought it out as a feature – this speaks volumes to me (but maybe you see it as proof of a conspiracy theory).
Hundreds of HHO sellers cite Bari & Esmaeil’s experiment as proof that HHO works and yet no one else took any notice of it at all.
William pretty much ignored all of the questions I have so far asked him, he has yet to show me anything about any testing of Epoch’s products, by whom, when, what methodology, what blinding, what controls, what results and what conclusions. Why? I don’t know, but I’m pretty sure it is because no one has ever done any.
William says that Epoch are “not able to achieve consistent fuel savings across all models”, but I am asking what results they have achieved on what models, not so much why they are not consistent.
To put another way – on what basis are Epoch making the claims that they do? Because I strongly suspect they have none.
And if Epoch have no proof that their product does any of what they claim it does then why have the UN decided to award them for it?
Unfortunately, I can find no answer to this other than to assume it is because they are imbeciles.