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	<title>Comments on: Jubycell/de Verde Technologies &#8211; yet more HHO scamers in the UK</title>
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	<description>Jon Starbuck's blog exposing pseudo-green nonsense, promoting science and critical thinking.</description>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 19:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is not the job of the OFT to test every random stupid idea dreamed up by some crackpot. What if I claimed that driving with a banana in your air filter will reduce emissions, do you think the OFT should test that too? It is the job of the inventor to show that it works, and they NEVER do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is not the job of the OFT to test every random stupid idea dreamed up by some crackpot. What if I claimed that driving with a banana in your air filter will reduce emissions, do you think the OFT should test that too? It is the job of the inventor to show that it works, and they NEVER do.</p>
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		<title>By: doug</title>
		<link>http://www.eco-scams.com/archives/709#comment-28636</link>
		<dc:creator>doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 13:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why cant the office of fair trading simply have one fitted to one of thier vehicles and report or is thier simply an embarassing ommission in the law that allows scams?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why cant the office of fair trading simply have one fitted to one of thier vehicles and report or is thier simply an embarassing ommission in the law that allows scams?</p>
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		<title>By: James Woods</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Woods</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2011 10:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon,

Thanks for the reply. I have just sent several lines off to the local newspaper to see if they are interested, making reference to his advertisements, the product and the fact that he&#039;s bought a new Harley Davidson and X5 with the proceeds of his scam.  Maybe I&#039;ll get a response.  I&#039;ll let you know in due course.  Coming from a scientific background, I am very keen to expose the con men.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon,</p>
<p>Thanks for the reply. I have just sent several lines off to the local newspaper to see if they are interested, making reference to his advertisements, the product and the fact that he&#8217;s bought a new Harley Davidson and X5 with the proceeds of his scam.  Maybe I&#8217;ll get a response.  I&#8217;ll let you know in due course.  Coming from a scientific background, I am very keen to expose the con men.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.eco-scams.com/archives/709#comment-23788</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2011 09:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;unmask this charlatan and send him down&quot;... well there is the ASA... who will tell him to stop it soon, maybe, if they choose to checkup on him. I think you are better getting the BBC involved, like I did for Oil Drum. Oh, wait, you need to be already making a documentary about them and their university (of Kent) to be interested and whatnot... No, know one is interested unless there is something really sensational going down...
Seriously, try getting  the local paper interested in a local scoop... no, they are not interested in writing a story either, not unless it is handed to them in the form of an un referenced and not verifiable press release from said con men...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;unmask this charlatan and send him down&#8221;&#8230; well there is the ASA&#8230; who will tell him to stop it soon, maybe, if they choose to checkup on him. I think you are better getting the BBC involved, like I did for Oil Drum. Oh, wait, you need to be already making a documentary about them and their university (of Kent) to be interested and whatnot&#8230; No, know one is interested unless there is something really sensational going down&#8230;<br />
Seriously, try getting  the local paper interested in a local scoop&#8230; no, they are not interested in writing a story either, not unless it is handed to them in the form of an un referenced and not verifiable press release from said con men&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.eco-scams.com/archives/709#comment-23739</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2011 16:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see, that is quite funny. No I am a different Jon and this is my website. 
 John Hickman would never dare post to this website, he chooses to ignore me because to take me on would require him to justify his claims and he cannot do that.
So, if the product he sold you did not work why did you not ask for a refund? He claims to have a 30 day money back guarantee but I&#039;m quite sure you get a lot more than that as  part of your statutory rights. If the product does not do what the maker claims then you are entitled to a refund, no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see, that is quite funny. No I am a different Jon and this is my website.<br />
 John Hickman would never dare post to this website, he chooses to ignore me because to take me on would require him to justify his claims and he cannot do that.<br />
So, if the product he sold you did not work why did you not ask for a refund? He claims to have a 30 day money back guarantee but I&#8217;m quite sure you get a lot more than that as  part of your statutory rights. If the product does not do what the maker claims then you are entitled to a refund, no?</p>
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		<title>By: James Woods</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Woods</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2011 15:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you know it&#039;s quite funny that both the boss of De Verde Tech and you have the same forename. I thought I had a real bite when I noticed your initial response, mistaking it be from John Hickman. Apologies. As you could probably surmise, my posts were somewhat vitriolic owing to the fact that I fell for his cunning marketing and have received little or no benefit on either fuel economy or power. What can be done about John and his little venture of scamming countless idiots like myself?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you know it&#8217;s quite funny that both the boss of De Verde Tech and you have the same forename. I thought I had a real bite when I noticed your initial response, mistaking it be from John Hickman. Apologies. As you could probably surmise, my posts were somewhat vitriolic owing to the fact that I fell for his cunning marketing and have received little or no benefit on either fuel economy or power. What can be done about John and his little venture of scamming countless idiots like myself?</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.eco-scams.com/archives/709#comment-23733</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2011 15:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James, 
Erm, I think you should take a closer look at my website, the clue is in the title, it is called eco-scams. The title of this page is &quot;Jubycell/de Verde Technologies - yet more HHO scamers in the UK&quot; and the content of the page calls them out as con men selling a bogus product which cannot possibly work. I have personally put several  of these companies out of business and really embarrassed universities which have supported them, i don&#039;t think I am the guy you should be having a go at. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James,<br />
Erm, I think you should take a closer look at my website, the clue is in the title, it is called eco-scams. The title of this page is &#8220;Jubycell/de Verde Technologies &#8211; yet more HHO scamers in the UK&#8221; and the content of the page calls them out as con men selling a bogus product which cannot possibly work. I have personally put several  of these companies out of business and really embarrassed universities which have supported them, i don&#8217;t think I am the guy you should be having a go at.</p>
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		<title>By: James Woods</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Woods</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2011 12:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon,

What I purport to is that it is impossible to get any greater fuel efficiency from an engine through the use of a Hydrogen-on-Demand system, ergo your product fails at the first hurdle. If you do have a good grasp of the laws of thermodynamics then how can you stand by these absurd proclamations and expect people to pay good money for a bogus product? If that does not constitute charlatan then both your perception of the english language and reality are seriously skewed. Be a decent chap, own up to your devious ways and go away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon,</p>
<p>What I purport to is that it is impossible to get any greater fuel efficiency from an engine through the use of a Hydrogen-on-Demand system, ergo your product fails at the first hurdle. If you do have a good grasp of the laws of thermodynamics then how can you stand by these absurd proclamations and expect people to pay good money for a bogus product? If that does not constitute charlatan then both your perception of the english language and reality are seriously skewed. Be a decent chap, own up to your devious ways and go away.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Nov 2011 22:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James, What are  you trying to say? How am I a charlatan? I think I have a pretty god grasp of the laws of thermodynamics, thank you... Jon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, What are  you trying to say? How am I a charlatan? I think I have a pretty god grasp of the laws of thermodynamics, thank you&#8230; Jon.</p>
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		<title>By: James Woods</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Woods</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Nov 2011 22:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon and your team of charlatans,

This is a complete rip off.  A cursory glance at the first law of thermodynamics firmly pisses on your chips.

Increase in internal energy of a system = heat supplied to the system + work done on the system

Enough said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon and your team of charlatans,</p>
<p>This is a complete rip off.  A cursory glance at the first law of thermodynamics firmly pisses on your chips.</p>
<p>Increase in internal energy of a system = heat supplied to the system + work done on the system</p>
<p>Enough said.</p>
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