Comments on: Trevor Hunter from HHOTec / HMFSales… again…

By: Paul

Paul — Sun, 09 Jan 2011 20:06:01 +0000

Hi Jon! Why do you call yourself Starbuck? (Sorry if its your real name, nothing personal) Better call yourself – Unpaid Truthseeker!!!!
If you can thourouhgly formulate the terms and conditions for what you consider to be the evidence or the proof for hho units to save or not to save 20 percent of fuel for petrol or diesel engines – I am in to discuss and fullfill these terms and conditions to cease hho part of your blog forever. the thing works. the thing saves fuel. email me, dear! sorry for my possible mistakes in english grammar – i am not a native speaker. Best regards.

By: Boris Nealson

Boris Nealson — Sun, 12 Sep 2010 15:22:39 +0000

I called the toll-free number recently and spoke to a very irritated Carl Maddox who refused to tell me how to contact “the Federal Consumer Protection” as stated by Joel Robinson on national radio ads. He says it is part of the US Post Office but Google yields zero results for any such agency. He says one must travel to Washington DC and visit the “Federal Archives Building” to get the details as the information is not posted on the Internet. This kind of fraud sickens me and I intend to file a complaint with the MA Attorney General as well as the FTC.

By: Jon

Jon — Wed, 17 Feb 2010 16:45:41 +0000

I know Dom, he is so odd. A private investigator, seriously? Good luck with that!
Trevor is a conspiracy theorist and a possible narcissist, my guess is that in his mind it could not possibly be true that he is selling things which don’t work so it must be the rest of the world which is wrong. People like me who call “bullshit!” must therefore be employees of the big oil companies, this is doubly funny when you think about what I am my peers actually do.

By: dom Kaos

dom Kaos — Wed, 17 Feb 2010 16:17:17 +0000

Ooh Jon, he says he’s hired a private investigator “to find out about (you) and what (your) agenda may be” – you must be shaking in your shoes.

By: Anne

Anne — Wed, 17 Feb 2010 00:29:38 +0000

Ehhh, can someone please do the math for me ?

On the HHOTec site the 68% stated comes from 80% for a perfectly tuned engines minus 12% average for a less than perfectly tuned engine.

So of the 100 litres of fuel going in my average untuned engine, 20% is not burned because not even a perfectly tuned engine would burn that and another 12% is not burned because my engine is not tuned.

80% of 100 litres is 80 litres, and 12% of 80 litres is 9.6 litres.
So in total 80-9.6 = 70.4 litres is burned.
That’s 70.4% not 68%.

I’ve gained 2.4% just by redoing their math.

Also, the increase I’ll achieve is from 68% to 90%, a quoted increase of 22%.

So If my engine now only burns 68 litres of the 100 litres that goes in, and after installing this system it burns 90 litres of the 100 litres that goes in, then that is an increase of over 32% not the 22% that is quoted on the HHOTec site. Why would they sell themselves short by more that 10% of increase ?

BTW, my poorly tuned, carb run, cat-less engine in fact does throw out about 10% of its fuel unburned. As a result is has very high HC levels.

By: Jason Perry

Jason Perry — Tue, 16 Feb 2010 23:02:31 +0000

Quite right. It would be a big stinkin’ mess if fuel combustion were only 68%.

By: Jon

Jon — Tue, 16 Feb 2010 21:01:23 +0000

Thanks Jason. Think the differnece between engine efficiency and fuel-to-wheels efficiency… I get a number of different figures depending on where I look. But anyway, the amount of fuel burnt in a normal ICE is very much higher than the 68% on the HHOTec website.

By: Jason Perry

Jason Perry — Tue, 16 Feb 2010 20:32:54 +0000

Hi Jon, sorry to hear about this. Just want to point out that IC engine efficiencies are typically in the 20′s, not 60%.

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