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	<title>Comments on: Hydrox Solutions, more pseudo-science with university endorsement</title>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2011 22:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an SI ICE needs 11000 litres of Air to one Litre of fuel can this device produce anywhere near that quantity of gas? As the SI ICE is using FREE air and uses a lot of TECH to get as efficient a burn as possible why add to the mix a potentially dangerous chemical which was never part of the original design process?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an SI ICE needs 11000 litres of Air to one Litre of fuel can this device produce anywhere near that quantity of gas? As the SI ICE is using FREE air and uses a lot of TECH to get as efficient a burn as possible why add to the mix a potentially dangerous chemical which was never part of the original design process?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2011 13:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any University faculty  worth it&#039;s salt would know that results without data/ discussion and review  are meaningless. Even the most brilliant students can be very naive and make the most appaling mistakes through inexperience.  It looks like Kingston University has been duped - and because of there lack of rigour and high standards  many companies could potentially be ripped off. 

How hard can it be to switch the amazing &quot;Eliminator&quot; device OFF, test,switch it back    ON, test,  and measure the Fuel flow, power output, HC etc. and shut all us nit pickers up.   

Why are Kingston  University, Vince Cable  apparently endorsing this company when they cannot prove what they say. Remember Cable et al. are relying on a revival of manufacturing industry and in particular &quot;green technology&quot; to save us from financial ruin. God help us if they really are this ignorant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any University faculty  worth it&#8217;s salt would know that results without data/ discussion and review  are meaningless. Even the most brilliant students can be very naive and make the most appaling mistakes through inexperience.  It looks like Kingston University has been duped &#8211; and because of there lack of rigour and high standards  many companies could potentially be ripped off. </p>
<p>How hard can it be to switch the amazing &#8220;Eliminator&#8221; device OFF, test,switch it back    ON, test,  and measure the Fuel flow, power output, HC etc. and shut all us nit pickers up.   </p>
<p>Why are Kingston  University, Vince Cable  apparently endorsing this company when they cannot prove what they say. Remember Cable et al. are relying on a revival of manufacturing industry and in particular &#8220;green technology&#8221; to save us from financial ruin. God help us if they really are this ignorant.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 16:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Michael. 

If you read the University&#039;s response to me you will see that they say that Hydrox &quot;was responsible for the collection of data and analysis of the results&quot; so it was not the students or the University at all. Indeed, if you read the Hydrox website carefully you will see that they say the same thing. This technology does not work, it cannot work, it is a scam as old as the hills - Hydrox are mistaken, they did not get the results that they claim they did. 

It says on the Hydrox website that they are available to anyone upon request, so why won&#039;t they show them to me? Have you seen them, Michael? If so send them over and, as Lez says above, then we can all go home. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Michael. </p>
<p>If you read the University&#8217;s response to me you will see that they say that Hydrox &#8220;was responsible for the collection of data and analysis of the results&#8221; so it was not the students or the University at all. Indeed, if you read the Hydrox website carefully you will see that they say the same thing. This technology does not work, it cannot work, it is a scam as old as the hills &#8211; Hydrox are mistaken, they did not get the results that they claim they did. </p>
<p>It says on the Hydrox website that they are available to anyone upon request, so why won&#8217;t they show them to me? Have you seen them, Michael? If so send them over and, as Lez says above, then we can all go home.</p>
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		<title>By: michael armitage</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael armitage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 11:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hold on a minute, the results were produced by the university students, have seen their theses. Have also spoken to the professor who told me the device does work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hold on a minute, the results were produced by the university students, have seen their theses. Have also spoken to the professor who told me the device does work.</p>
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		<title>By: Lez Paylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lez Paylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 18:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Can we just see the &quot;Proof of Concept&quot; then..? then we can all go home..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Can we just see the &#8220;Proof of Concept&#8221; then..? then we can all go home..</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.eco-scams.com/archives/690#comment-7637</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 17:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Update - 29th Jan 2010

I just got the following from Kingston University:

	&lt;li&gt;The company used the University&#039;s industry standard engine test bay and analysis equipment, which had been calibrated by the manufacturers prior to tests being performed. 

	&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Academics and technicians from the Faculty provided advice as to the conduct of tests and the use of equipment. MSc students helped with running the tests which formed part of their projects.

	&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The company was responsible for the collection of data and analysis of the results. 

	&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The University&#039;s staff at all times acted with the utmost professionalism and with absolute integrity.

	&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The results from the test are confidential to the company and the University will not break the client&#039;s confidentiality.

	&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Our Faculty possesses significant industrial expertise, including the area of automotive engineering. The Faculty of Engineering is receptive to industrial needs and has a long history of undertaking experiments and tests for Industry. We welcome opportunities for joint projects with industry, for instance proof of concept and bringing products to market.&lt;/li&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Update &#8211; 29th Jan 2010</p>
<p>I just got the following from Kingston University:</p>
<li>The company used the University&#8217;s industry standard engine test bay and analysis equipment, which had been calibrated by the manufacturers prior to tests being performed.
</li>
<li>Academics and technicians from the Faculty provided advice as to the conduct of tests and the use of equipment. MSc students helped with running the tests which formed part of their projects.
</li>
<li>The company was responsible for the collection of data and analysis of the results.
</li>
<li>The University&#8217;s staff at all times acted with the utmost professionalism and with absolute integrity.
</li>
<li>The results from the test are confidential to the company and the University will not break the client&#8217;s confidentiality.
</li>
<li>Our Faculty possesses significant industrial expertise, including the area of automotive engineering. The Faculty of Engineering is receptive to industrial needs and has a long history of undertaking experiments and tests for Industry. We welcome opportunities for joint projects with industry, for instance proof of concept and bringing products to market.</li>
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