HH2 - another run-your-can-on-water scam
I was driving through the north of LA the other day when a car came past us covered in stickers claiming it ran on hydrogen, very interesting I thought and jotted down the web address; www.hh2.us
When I got home I looked them up, I was so disappointed to see they are just another HHO run-your-car-on-water scam, www.hh2.us turns out to be www.hydrolectricpower.com. I have been blogging about this HHO crap for years.
Their website is bold as hell, it even has an address on it (however when you look it up it turns out to be a printing company http://www.picassopress.com/), and to be driving about the freeways around LA with that bullshit pasted all over their car shows someone has balls. They even seem to to have been at the LA Auto show, that must have been interesting, wish I had been there for that.
However, when you scratch the surface it is just the same old shit about hydrogen fuel cells (a hydrogen fuel cell is quite different), catalysts (there is no catalyst here), burning of hydrogen (which is it, a catalyst or a fuel cell or is it burning?), how it uses “excess” electrical energy to run (there is no such thing as excess energy), how it utilises “cool fusion” (now I really am about to wet myself laughing)… they claim it will clean up your exhaust (bullshit), clean carbon from your engine (bullshit), fractures fuel molecules (what does this even mean?), increases fuel combustion (bullshit), lower your emissions (bullshit), lower your fuel consumption (bullshit)… and all the other same old nonsense that comes from the lying mouths of these fraudulent peddlers in snake oil… and as ever all with no evidence whatsoever to back up any of it…
What is more, on their web site they have a disclaimer (of sorts) that they don’t guarantee you anything, no guaranteed mileage increase, no guaranteed economy increase… they then go in to cite water4gas and Ozzie Freedom as an example of proof that it works… risible, frankly.
Oh, and of course just to make the fraud/con picture complete, they are looking for dealers and distributors; you too could be screwing innocent people for their cash… or is it actually a pyramid scheme?
Apparently “the benefits [of HHO / HH2] are factual and well documented” (Bullshit! Where and when and by whom?) and that “using hydrogen as a combustion enhancement in internal combustion engines has been researched and proven for many years” (Bullshit! Again, where and when and by whom?) - how can they get away with saying this? They cannot possibly back it up because it is blatantly not true, so how can it be legal?
They also say that “results will vary depending on driving conditions and driving methods”, or to put it another way, if you slow down you will save fuel.
And they don’t let you do an DIY install… so my guess is that while they are fitting the kit they over inflate your tires and tune your engine too and fit an EFIE, how else could they convince you that you saw an improvement in your mileage?
Of course “prices are subject to change without notice” so you had better move quick to avoid getting ripped off too much……..
Derek:
I just read your blog, very interesting insight into a fool that knows nothing about the products.
We are the only company ever to be granted a California Executive Order D-643 by CARB for gasoline and diesel vehicle.
The invention is designed to clean up toxic emissions, we never input dangerous HHO gases into a vehicle.
We have our own technology and after reading your blog, I have a word for it. Quote from you \
11 September 2009, 7:05 pmJon:
What are you talking about? Please send me proof your product works or shut up. Is this it? Proves nothing… and it also explicitly says you are not allowed to say that it does!
11 September 2009, 11:08 pmDerek:
In looking carefully at your prose, you absolutely know nothing about HH2 products.
You confuse the Hydrogen clean air combustion system with all of the other HHO junk out there.
You are the least talented researcher I have ever read about, you have never seen a HH2 Unit, not have you tested or bought a HH2 unit and will never have a HH2 unit.
Our clients are very happy with the HH2 products, they often refer others to buy HH2 units.
I remind you that your comments are baseless, full of lies and pure bullshit from your statements.
Sorry you are so cynical and tainted, grow up and get a real degree or do something with your life other than bullshit people with your expertise that is non-existent and you are a fraud with your statements of fiction rather than fact.
You really are not worth responding to, as little minds have no room for the truth.
Regards, D.
12 April 2010, 11:43 pmJon:
Would you like to tell us all in exactly what way your HH2 product differs from “all the other HHO junk out there” because I can see no difference whatsoever.
Your machine separates water into hydrogen-and-oxygen which is introduced into the engine’s air intake with the alleged result of improved MPG and decreased emissions, you have no evidence to back up your claims and no method by which it could work. In fact if it did work it would be nothing short of magic.
This makes it EXACTLY the same as “all the other HHO junk out there”.
All I am asking for is independent peer reviewed evidence that your system, or any system like it, does any of the things you say it does, you can’t provide it because it is not true. This is not unreasonable, it is totally normal and standard practice, if you could manage it then you would be on the front page of every newspaper in the world, a billionaire overnight, you would turn science on its head.
My qualifications are irrelevant; what I do with my life, irrelevant; my talents as a researcher, irrelevant; whether or not I have tested your HHO machine, irrelevant; whether or not you say your customers are happy, irrelevant… in fact, everything you have said is irrelevant.
I’m not stupid, i know smoke an mirrors when I see it, frankly it gets very boring and very tedious.
What is relevant is that you are a con man selling pseudo-scientific nonsense, this makes you exactly the same as all the other people selling HHO out there, you have no proof your HHO system works any more than any other HHO con man.
Any firther comments on my blog which don’t address this one question will be deleted.
13 April 2010, 12:04 am